Re: ISP Operators AISURU/Kimwolf botnet

[Mike Simpson via NANOG <nanog () lists nanog org>]

“immediately recognize any they own, which will drive home the point that this is their problem”

That’s some grade A victim blaming bs there. 

“The rubbish CPE that we forced you to have is now owned and it’s upsetting our eyeballs only peering arrangements so 
you need to sort it out”

ISPs are only not accountable legally for the content of the packets they transport. That doesn’t mean they are not 
responsible for the terrible routers they give out. 

Your customers in the main don’t care as they are used to flaky internet service. It’s the problem of the ISP as it 
only really impacts on them in an aggregated form so as that’s where the pain is, that’s who is “it” for solving it. 

-don’t hand out cheap pos un-updatable CPE or do (shareholder value/ enshittification) and accept the consequences with 
good grace. 



> On 17 Jan 2026, at 02:10, Mel Beckman via NANOG <nanog () lists nanog org> wrote:
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> immediately recognize any they own, which will drive home the point that this is their problem
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