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Re: ISP Operators AISURU/Kimwolf botnet


From: Mel Beckman via NANOG <nanog () lists nanog org>
Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2026 01:41:54 +0000

You should write the article and submit it to the New York Times technology group. I believe David Pogue still works 
there, and he is a tech guy, so maybe he would be a good vehicle to get it published. I used to work with DAVID at 
Macworld magazine.

But it’s not the job for an ISP, or even something an ISP could get the major media to publish.

-mel via cell

On Jan 17, 2026, at 4:50 PM, Tim Burke <tim () mid net> wrote:

The problem I see is that an article like this is intended for an IT/security professional audience.

These TV piracy boxes are often used by uneducated folks that would not read such an article. They just want their 
sports and $cableNewsChannel, and if you tell them it’s illegal or full of malware, they will just tell you you’re 
wrong, keep using it, and let it cause their 1Gbps circuit to get saturated by botnet traffic, all in the name of 
“free television”.

I have joined a few social media groups about these devices out of sheer curiosity, and have seen a number of threads 
from folks that ask why an ISPs security offering (typically Comcast’s “XFi Security” or AT&T’s “Active Armor”) would 
be complaining about traffic coming from the device… the common trend is to tell people to disable the security 
services, as “Infinity [SIC] is just trying to force you to buy their cable”.

Hooray for Stockholm syndrome.

On Jan 16, 2026, at 20:10, Mel Beckman via NANOG <nanog () lists nanog org> wrote:

Roland,

The Krebs article you cite is even better than the one I linked, because it shows pictures of the many consumer 
devices that can be infiltrated. People are likely to immediately recognize any they own, which will drive home the 
point that this is their problem.

-mel

On Jan 16, 2026, at 5:43 PM, Dobbins, Roland via NANOG <nanog () lists nanog org> wrote:


On Jan 16, 2026, at 22:16, Benjamin Hatton via NANOG <nanog () lists nanog org> wrote:

As a smaller ISP, I think the biggest thing that would help us would be a
'mainstream' media outlet covering some of it so we have something to show
customers who call in about their internet being bad, us telling them it is
their android streaming box that is taking up their entire connection
moving TBs of data a day, and them responding with "but I bought it from
Walmart/Amazon" or "you are just trying to get me to sign up for your
cable" and refusing to do anything about it because 'free TV'.

<https://krebsonsecurity.com/2026/01/the-kimwolf-botnet-is-stalking-your-local-network/>
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